**The following "True Story" was written by a disgruntled LIPS member. It's shame that they have to hide behind the screen of a computer and are afraid to pick up the phone and talk about this situation, person to person. Anyone with a real sense of responsibility and who has nothing to hide would not be fearful of signing their name.**

LIPS STATES: Do you believe everything you read? Can you believe Glenn Zaneoff?
  **LIPS HAS NEVER CALLED GLENN, SO HOW CAN THEY SAY THAT HE IS LYING?**
Want to know more? Please visit the following links. Then come back here for the truth. ParrotClubs.Com & StolenParrots

PFC States: ** HOW EASY LIPS MAKES JUDGEMENTS WITHOUT HAVING EVEN TALKED TO GLENN.**

LIPS: Glenn Zaneoff will have you believing that he is a wonderful animal lover. This is about as truthful as our politicians are.

LIPS: There are a few questions you should ask before believing him.
In August 1999 Parrot Rescue was called to pick up 4 birds. Two women answered the call. Glenn's mother said that the birds (a seriously ill Scarlet Macaw, a Blue & Gold Macaw & two Nanday Conures) were fed a can of tuna fish 3 days prior and agreed to surrender HER birds. Nothing was ever said about any person named Glenn Zaneoff.

PFC STATES:** WHAT IS WRONG WITH FEEDING TUNA FISH TO A PARROT? MY GUYS LOVE IT. IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT THE PERSON WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE THE BIRDS THAT NIGHT HAS SIGNED A NOTORIZED STATEMENT ATTESTING TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS EXPECTING THE BIRDS. IT'S A SHAME THAT THE THIEVES HAVE TO KEEP CALLING MRS. ZANEOFF A LIAR.**
She was informed that the birds would receive medical attention & be adopted out. **LIPS WAS CALLED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE DAYS FOLLOWING THE INCIDENT. MRS. ZANEOFF KEPT ASKING WHY THE BIRDS NEVER GOT TAKEN TO MARC'S STORE? HER CALLS WENT UNANSWERED.**

PFC STATES: ** EVEN IF THIS WAS TRUE, ISN'T ANYONE ALLOWED TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS. SOMEONE FROM LIPS TOLD LILLIAN THE VERY NEXT MORNING THAT THE BIRDS WOULD BE RETURNED **IMMEDIATELY.

LIPS STATES: FACT: Scarlet Macaw: weighed 510 grams. (Normal weight is at least 1300) Veterinarian who saw Scarlet advised euthanasia. Other birds were malnourished, underweight, and lethargic. (There are photos available)
PFC STATES: ** IF YOU CHECK OUT ANY BOOKS OR ANYONE OWNING A SCARLET, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE AVERAGE WEIGHT OF A SCARLET IS 700-850 GRAMS, DEPENDING ON THE BIRD. A HYACINTH, , WHICH IS THE LARGEST OF THE MACAWS WEIGHS AN AVERAGE OF 1100-1200 GRAMS. SOMEONE DEFINITELY DID NOT GET HIS OR HER FACTS STRAIGHT.**

LIPS STATES: Glenn claims that his scarlet macaw was fine, except for high levels of lead in her system.

PFC STATES: **OBVIOUSLY, LIPS NEVER HAD ANY BIRD WHO SUFFERED FROM LEAD POSIONING. GLENN IS HAPPY THAT HIS BIRD LIVED THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE. GLENN HOPES THAT NOONE EVER HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO EDUCATING THOSE THAT ARE INEXPERIENCED.? GLENN NEVER HAD A PROBLEM LIKE THIS BEFORE AND ADMITS THAT HE DID NOT KNOW THE BEST WAY TO CARE FOR THE SCARLET.**

LIPS STATES:FACT: The scarlet was treated & released PERCHING 18 months prior to the surrender. The Zaneoffs failed to pay the bill to the Veterinarian. To date, the bill remains unpaid.
PFC STATES: **WONDER WHERE THIS INFORMATION CAME FROM?**ISN'T IT NICE TO KNOW THAT LIPS HAS THE ABILITY TO OBTAIN INFO FROM YOUR VET'S CONFIDENTIAL RECORDS.**
** THE VET IN QUESTION STATES THAT $1400 WAS RECEIVED FOR THE SCARLETS CARE. AND WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE BIRDS WERE STOLEN? AND HOW DOES LIPS KNOW WHAT WAS OR WASN'T PAID. I WOULD BRE ASHAMED TO BELONG TO A CLUB THAT INVADES THE PRIVACY OF OTHERS.
  ACCORDING TO THE VETS RECORDS, THE BIRD HAD BEEN HOSPITALIZED LESS THAN A YEAR PFC STATES:BEFORE THE THEFT AND HAD BEEN NONAMBULATORY WHILE HOSPITALIZED FOR 30 DAYS.**

LIPS STATES:FACT: The scarlet was not "fine" but was living in a stereo cabinet because it could not move its legs. In that hell, the back legs twisted up behind the bird, the flight muscles in the wings atrophied and when rescued the bird was just about dead from starvation. It took THREE DAYS for volunteers to clean the feces off the body of the bird! THREE DAYS!! That did not happen OVERNIGHT. It took a long time to waste those muscles. This is the way someone "LOVES HIS CHILDREN"????? Truth is if these birds were children, Glenn would have faced charges of child abuse.

PFC STATES:**THE SCARLET WAS PLACED IN THE BOX, SINCE HE COULDN'T PERCH AND FELT THAT THE BOX WAS THE BEST WAY TO HOUSE THE BIRD. AT LEAST IF HE WAS ACCUSED OF ABUSE, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TESTIFY IN A COURT OF LAW AND GIVEN A CHANCE TO DEFEND HIMSELF. HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED VISITATION EVEN IF IT WERE SUPERVISED. HAS LIPS ALLOWED THIS. NOOOO FACT IS THE POLICE OR THE SPCA HAVE NEVER PRESSED ANY CHARGES AGAISNT GLENN CONCERNING THE SUPPOSED MISTREATMENT OF HIS BIRDS. ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN. IN SEPTEMBER OF 1999, THE SPCA DID INFORM LIPS THAT THEY WERE TO RETURN THE BIRDS. LIPS HAS REFUSED TO OBEY THE RULING OF THE SPCA. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT PAYING A $40 MEMBERSHIP FEE ENTITLED LIPS TO THE POWER TO STEAL BIRDS. CAN LIPS PROVIDE SOME SORT OF DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY HAVE THE POWER TO CONFISCATE BIRDS? GLENN'S CASE WAS NOT THE FIRST. ASK LIPS WHY THEY REFUSED TO GIVE BACK ALL OF THE BIRDS CONFISCATED AT THE AIRPORT A FEW YEARS BACK. THEY EVEN GOT INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH THE DETECTIVE INVOLVED IN THE CASE AND FINALLY RETURNED ALL BUT 2 BIRDS.**

LIPS STATES: Glenn claims that LIPS members refuse to "give him the courtesy of a return phone call".
PFC STATES: ** NAME ONE PERSON THAT HAS EVER CALLED GLENN BACK? ** IF IT WERE YOUR BIRD, WOULDN'T YOU WANT A CALL BACK?**

LIPS STATES:FACT: Glenn has harassed members of the Board of Managers,
PFC STATES: ** GLENN DID CALL SEVERAL MEMBERS OF LIPS APPROXIMATELY 3 MONTHS AGO. ONE CALL WAS MADE TO THE BANASZEK HOME, IN WHICH HE WAS TOLD NEVER TO CALL AGAIN, AND HE HASN'T. IT'S FUNNY HOW THOSE TWO CAN STEAL HIS BIRDS, BUT REFUSE TO TALK TO HIM WHEN HE CALLED ASKING ABOUT THE WHEREABOUTS OF HIS BABIES. LINDA WAS ALSO CALLED SINCE HE WAS TOLD THAT SHE WAS A FAIR PERSON, BUT I GUESS THAT WAS PROVED TO BE WRONG. SHE GOT UPSET AND HE HAS NEVER CALLED BACK SINCE. HE CALLED MAUREEN & SUSAN AND LEFT MESSAGES, BUT THEY DID NOT RETURN HIS CALLS. ELISE SPOKE VERY NICELY TO HIM AND ADMITTED THAT SHE WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD HIM THAT HE WOULD NEVER SEE HIS BIRDS AGAIN. SHE SAID THAT SHE WOULD BRING THE MATTER UP AT A BOARD MEETING. THE NEXT THING THAT HAPPENDED WAS THAT GLENN GETS A CALL FROM THE POLICE STATING THAT HE HAD MADE 43 CALLS TO LIPS AND THAT HE FACES 43 COUNTS OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT IF HE MAKES ANY MORE CALLS. IF SOMEONE STOLE MY BIRDS, I'D BE MAKING CALLS EVERYDAY. WOULDN'T YOU?**
has called them at home, has spoken to them in court,
PFC STATES: WHEN HE SPOKE TO LIPS MEMBERS IN COURT, IT WAS LIKE A LYNCHING. ELISE YELLED OT HIM THAT HE WOULD NEVER SEE HIS BIRDS AGAIN. SINCE WHEN DOES SHE HAVE SOME TYPE OF POLICING POWER? THE LIPS ATTORNEY TOLD LISA THAT SHE HAD NO RIGHT BEING THERE AND THAT HER HELPING WAS JUST SHOWING A VENDETTA AGAINST LIPS. THIS IS PURE SPECULATION. AGAIN LIPS DOES NOT WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS.** has harassed members at their monthly meetings (LIPS had to have police presence at our last meeting so that he would leave). WHO DID HE HARASS? ** CAN ANYONE NAME NAMES? HE ATTENDED ONE MEETING AND LEFT PEACEFULLY WHEN ASKED. IF IT WAS ME, I'D BE AT EVERY MEETING, NOT JUST ONE IN 18 MONTHS. I'D SAY THAT GLENN HAS BEEN PRETTY PATIENT.HE WENT TO THIS MEETING, WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE AND PERMISSION OF THE OFFICERS OF THE 1ST PRECINCT, WHO HAD AGREED TO ACCOMPANY HIM TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANY TROUBLE. IF HE DID HARASS ANYONE, HOW COME NO CHARGES WERE PRESSED? ALL IT SAYS IN THE POLICE REPORT IS THAT HE WENT THERE TO RETRIVE HIS BIRDS, BUT WAS UNSUCESSFUL. GLENN WAS THE ONE WHO FILED THE POLICE REPORT, NOT LIPS.**

LIPS STATES:FACT: Glenn has had recourse within the court system. He has failed to utilize the courts, but lies about it.
PFC STATES: **ACTUALLY GLENN DID UTILIZE THE COURTS. HE APPEARED AT SMALL CLAIMS COURT IN DEER PARK, ON AUGUST 8, 2000, BUT WITHDREW THE CASE WHEN THE JUDGE INFORMED HIM THAT HE COULD ONLY RECEIVE A CASH JUDGEMENT. GLENN WANTS HIS BIRDS BACK, NOT THE MONEY. DID YOU KNOW THAT LIPS WAS GOING TO COUNTERSUE FOR $3000 FOR THE COST OF CARING FOR THE BIRDS. WHAT NERVE. THEY STEAL HIS BIRDS, THEN HAVE THE NERVE TO CHARGE HIM FOR THEM. AND THAT'S FOR ONLY 3 WEEKS OF CARE. LIPS ATTORNEY STATES THAT THE BIRDS WERE ADOPTED OUT WITHIN 3 WEEKS, SAYING THAT THE SPCA GAVE THEM PERMISSION TO PLACE THE BIRDS. THIS WAS NOT SO, ACCORDING TO THE SPCA. GLENN WANTS ONLY HIS BIRDS BACK, NOT MONEY, SO HE WITHDREW FROM THIS FORUM. AT THIS POINT GLENN ASKED FOR HIS BIRDS BACK, BUT THE LIPS ATTORNEY STATED THAT LIPS NO LONGER KNOWS THEIR WHERABOUTS. WITH SUCH A STRICT ADOPTION POLICY, HOW IS THIS SO?
LIPS STATES: **Glenn claims he contacted People's Court, but according to People's Court, a case must be filed in small claims court before they are interested. There is no pending case in small claims court.
PFC STATES: **THIS IS NOT TRUE AT ALL. AS LONG AS BOTH PARTIES ARE WILLING, THE PAPERWORK CAN BE SIGNED ON THE DAY OF THE TAPING.
THIS CASE WAS DISCUSSED MANY TIME S WITH A PRODUCER AT THE PEOPLE'S COURT. A DATE OF MARCH 6 WAS SET UP, BUT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM LIPS INFORMED THE COURT THAT THEY DID NOT WISH TO APPEAR. IF THEY HAD NOTHING TO HIDE, WHY DID THEY BACK OUT? **

LIPS STATES:FACT: Glenn Zaneoff claims the SPCA ordered return of the birds. They did not. Their case is closed and they have refused all comments.
PFC STATES: **ACTUALLY IRVING STERN OF THE SPCA INFORMED LIPS THAT THEY WERE TO RETURN THE BIRDS IN SEPTEMBER OF 1999. THE SPCA DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO ENFORCE THE RETURN OF THE BIRDS. IT'S STRANGE HOW LIPS SEEMS TO HAVE MORE POWER THAN THE SPCA. ACTUALLY THERE HAVE BEEN MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH LT. NORMAN OF THE SPCA WHO HAS STATED THAT LIPS DID NOT HAVE THEIR PERMISSION TO PLACE THE BIRDS AND LIPS CANNOT PRODUCE ANY PAPERWORK TO THIS EFFECT, CAN THEY?**

THE TRUE STORY:

LIPS STATES:A former disgruntled member of LIPS, Lisa Umstead, is the driving force between Glenn Zaneoff & LIPS.
PFC STATES: **THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND GLENN IS HIS LOVE FOR HIS BIRDS. LISA IS UNHAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT AN INJUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE. WHILE THE BIRDS CONDITION IS NOT IN QUESTION, THE WAY THAT THEY WERE TAKEN IS. YOU CANNOT TAKE THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS. ** Lisa Umstead filed every complaint for the Zaneoffs. ** EVERY COMPLAINT. HOW MANY WOULD THAT BE? AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH HELPING A FRIEND? SINCE WHEN IS THIS A CRIME? LISA FILED ON BEHALF OFLILLIAN SINCE LILLIAN IS BLIND AND NEEDED SOME ASSISTANCE. CLERKS FILE ON BEHALF OF THE ATTORNEYS THAT THEY WORK FOR ALL THE TIME, ACCORIDING TO A CLERK AT THE SMALL CLAIMS COURT. IT DOENS' MEAN THAT THE PERSON SIGNING THE COMPLAINT IS INVOLVED AT ALL. ** The Zaneoff's never signed one complaint. To date, Glenn Zaneoff has not even obtained an attorney. ** THIS IS TRUE. GLENN DOESN'T HAVE THE $3000 TO PAY FOR AN ATTORNEY. HE'S NOT AFRAID TO ADMIT THAT AS MUCH AS HE LOVES HIS BIRDS, HE DOESN'T QUITE HAVE THE FULL AMOUNGT TO PAY FOR AN ATTORNEY. ** She has signs in her house and in her car that state: LIPS MEMBERS STOLE *MY* BIRDS. Aren't they supposed to be GLENN'S birds??? **IF GLENN WISHES TO PLACE HIS PERSONAL SIGNS IN LISA'S CAR AND HOME, AND SHE ALLOWS HIM TO, THEN WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. THE MORE SIGNS THAT ARE POSTED, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS. ACTUALLY GLENN GAVE LISA FULL AUTHORIZATION TO TRY AND REGAIN CUSODY OF HIS BIRDS. HE FIGURED WITH HER KNOWLEDGE AND EXCELLENT REPUTAION THAT NO JUDGE COULD REFUSE TO GIVE HER CUSTODY OF THE BIRDS. SINCE SHE WAS ON THE LIPS BOARD OF DIRECTORS, SHOW MANAGER, CORRESPONDING SECRETARY, HAD THE PARROT PHONE IN HER HOME FOR 9 YEARS, MANY PEOPLE VALUED AND STILL DO, THERE ARE MANY WHO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF TRUST IN HER JUDGEMENT.
LIPS STATES: Her main purpose is to slander LIPS. WHEN HAS SHE EVER SLANDERED LIPS? PLEASE GIVE SPECIFICS**.She formed her own club Parrot Fanciers after she left LIPS thinking that LIPS members would "flock" to the new club. PFC WAS FORMED AFTER LISA REALIZED THAT SHE COULD NO LONGER BE PART OF A CLUB THAT WAS QUICK TO BE SO JUDGEMENTAL & CRITICAL. AFTER SEEING FIRST HAND HOW ANOTHER BIRD WAS TAKEN FROM ITS OWNER. SHE ALSO WAS DEVESTATED WHEN OTHER VOLUNTEERS WERE FIRED FROM THEIR POSITIONS WITHOUT BEING GIVEN A CHANCE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. IT WAS MANY OTHERS WHO HAD APPROACHED LISA UP TO A YEAR BEFORE THAT ENCOURAGED HER TO START A NEW CLUB. ONE THAT WAS LESS JUDGEMENTAL. **

LIPS STATES: Well they didn't and now her dwindling membership is only making her more desparate to attack LIPS.
PFC STATES:** HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD HER SAY ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY ATTACKING LIPS? LET'S SEE SOME EXAMPLES.**

LIPS STATES:FACT: LIPS has never had more members, topping off at more than 500 members and families!!!
PFC STATES: **WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH GLENN'S BIRDS? SOUNDS LIKE A WAY TO AVOID TELLING WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO THE BIRDS. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, SET UP A TIME FOR GLENN TO BE REUNITED WITH HIS BIRDS. PFC HAS 225 MEMBERS AFTER 2 YEARS. LIPS ONLY HAS 500 MEMBERS AFTER 16 YEARS. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THESE FIGURES?**WOULD LIPS HAVE THE COURAGE TO GIVE ALL THE FACTS TO THEIR MEMBERS. MANY MEMBERS DID NOT KNOW THAT THE BIRDS WERE TAKEN FROM A BLIND LADY AND THAT NO NAME, ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER WAS LEFT WITH HER. THAT THE THIEVES WERE SENT TO PICK UP THE BIRDS AND SNUCK OUT OF THE HOUSE WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A GOOD BYE. THE ONLY WAY THEY WERE TRACKED DOWN WAS BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD SEEN THE CAR, A MAROON STATION WAGON.**

LIPS STATES:FACT: Lisa Umstead never knew Glenn prior to the rescue, she heard about it after the fact.** LISA NEVER CLAIMED TO HAVE SEEN THE BIRDS OR TO HAVE KNOWN GLENN. SHE WAS ONLY HELPING A DEVESTATED PERSON WHEN A CALL CAME TO THE PARROT HOTLINE FOR HELP. **
LIIPS: She has never even seen the birds. She only took up this cause to get back at the club she
PFC: feels "wronged" her.
**WHOSE OPINION IS THIS? THOSE WHO HAVE DEALT WITH LISA KNOW THAT SHE IS A GOOD-HEARTED PERSON AND HAS HELPED MANY. DID IT EVER OCCUR TO SOMEONE, THAT AFTER LISA LISTENED TO LILLIAN & GLENN THAT SHE WAS TRYING TO HELP THEM? AND THAT WAS ONLY AFTER TALKING TO THE VET INVOLVED, THE SPCA AND THE POLICE, AFTER SHE OBTAINED FACTS. SHE HAS HELPED MANY BIRDOWNERS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. AND THIS WAS NO EXCEPTION. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT LIPS IS TRYING TO DAMAGE HER REPUTAION.**
LIPSA: Glenn Zaneoff & Lisa Umstead have forged an alliance to be judge, jury & executioner and have woven a WEB OF LIES. They are the ones who should be "on trial".
PFC: ** LISA, ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO GLENN AND HEARD OF THIS INJUSTICE, HAVE FORMED AN ALLIACE AND ARE WILLING TO ASSIST HIM. **

If you are interested and want to know more, contact the following agencies!

They will verify facts stated here.
LIPS STATES: Nassau County Police Dept. = No pending criminal investigation against LIPS** OR GLENN.
PFC FACT: THE POLICE CLOSED THIS CASE WHEN IT WAS HANDED OVER TO THE SPCA, WHO TOLD LIPS TO GIVE BACK THE BIRDS.**

LIPS STATES: Nassau County SPCA = CASE CLOSED
PFC FACT: ** ASK LT. NORMAN IS WILLING TO HELP GLENN? WHY DID HE GIVE GLENN HIS CELL PHONE NUMBER AND HAS REPEATEDLY SPOKEN TO GLENN.**

LIPS STATES: Nassau County Parole Dept = Glenn Zaneoff's parole officer
PFC FACT: **GLEN IS NOT ON PAROLE. HE HAD BEEN IN TROUBLE PREVIOUSLY BUT HAS PAID FOR HIS MISTAKE. WHY IS LIPS USING HIS PAST AGAINST HIM? IF ANYONE ELSE EVER GETS IN TROUBLE, WOULD YOU WANT LIPS SLAMMMING YOU ALL OVER THE PLACE. I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE WHO HAVE STOLEN HIS BIRDS HAVE THE BEST REPUTAION EITHER. **

LIPS STATES: Suffolk County Police Dept - 6th Precinct, ready to pursue Glenn on a charge of aggravated harrassment because of his harrassement of LIPS.
PFC FACT: **ONLY BECAUSE LIPS DID NOT GIVE THEM THE WHOLE TRUTH. NOT ONCE DID ANYONE FROM LIPS EVER CALL HIM BACK AND TELL HIM NOT TO CALL THEM. THOSE 43 CALLS WERE MESSAGES LEFT ON THE LIPS HOTLINE ANSWERING MACHINE. ACCORDING TO THE NASSAU COUNTY DA'S OFFICE, GLENN HAS A LEGITIMENT RIGHT TO CALL LIPS SINCE HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO TRY AND RETRIEVE HIS PROPERTY. SINCE THE CASE IS CLOSED, THE DA'S OFFICE ADVISES THAT GLENN FILE HIS CASE IN A CIVIL COURT. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS TAKES MONEY, THAT GLENN DOESN'T HAVE AND LIPS KNOWS THIS.**

GLENN'S STOLEN PARROTS HA!
PFC FACT: **AGAIN WRITTEN BY SOMEONE WHO REFUSES TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES OR PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL GLENN OR THE DA'S OFFICE.**

DIDN'T THE POLICE PROSECUTE LIPS?
PFC FACT: **NO, BECAUSE OF THE HUMANITARIAN ISSUE. AND BECAUSE THE CASE WAS HANDED OVER TO THE SPCA. ONCE THE CASE WAS CLOSED, THEY WILL NOT REOPEN IT.**

LIPS STATES: No, detectives investigated and found that the birds were surrendered by Lillian Zaneoff; not stolen. CASE CLOSED.
PFC STATES: ** IF THE BIRDS WERE SURRENEDED, THEN PLEASE SHOW COPIES OF THE SURRENDER PAPERS.**

DENNIS UMSTEAD INVITES ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF LIPS WHO HAVE TRIED TO DESTROY HIS WIFES' REPUTAION, TO PERSONALLY CONTACT HIM. YOU KNOW WHERE HE LIVES. WHY NOT COME OUT IN THE OPEN AND SHOW YOURSELVES. YOU HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER, CALL HIM.**
  STRANGE, HOW LIPS REFUSED MEDIATION WITH THE DA'S OFFICE. WONDER WHAT THEY HAD TO HIDE!??? IDOES LIPS HAVE THE COURAGE AND RESPONSIBILITY TO CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT MEDIATION, THEN CONTACT THE DA'S OFFICE. YOU HAVE THE WRITTEN REQUEST. ANSWER IT YOURSELF, NOT HAVE AN ATTORNEY LIE FOR YOU. THE SPCA NEVER TOLD LIPS TO PLACE THE BIRDS.**

CAN EVERYONE SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIPS SUPPOSED FACTS AND THE TRUTH???

WHERE WAS GLENN??

Glenn was incarcerated (in jail) for beating up his mother. GLENN WAS IN JAIL. **OF COURSE WE ALL KNOW THAT BY NOW SINCE SOMEONE AT LIPS GOT AHOLD OF HIS RECORD AND GAVE ALL THIS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION TO VARIOUS LIPS MEMBERS. IF LIPS IS SO HONEST, THEN COME FORWARD AND LET IT BE KNOW HOW YOU ARE USING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION TO DESTROY THIS MAN. IF ONE OF YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG, ISN'T IT NICE TO KNOW THAT LIPS WOULD HUNT YOU DOWN AND LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT YOUR PAST HAS BEEN. IF ANYONE DOES ANYTHING THAT LIPS DOES NOT APPROVE OF, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE OR IT WILL BE MADE PUBLIC. DID YOU KNOW THAT LIPS HAS RECORDED ALL OF GLENN'S PLEAS FOR HIS BIRDS AND PLAYED THEM AT THEIR BOARD MEETINGS, AND LAUGHED ABOUT HIS SITUATION. HOW CRUEL CAN SOMEONE BE?** Glenn came home, threatened his own mother and she called the police. She now claimed that the birds were 'stolen' from her. **LILLIAN HAS DOCUMENTATION THAT THE BIRDS WERE TO BE TRANSPORTED TO MARC'S THAT NIGHT. ** This is not the truth.

**FOR THOSE WHO THINK LIPS IS SO GREAT. ASK THEM HOW COME THEY ARE INVADING THE PFC FREE AD SITE ON A DAILY BASIS. THIS IS NOT THE WORK OF DEDICATED BIRD LOVERS, BUT OF SICK INDIVIDUALS.IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT LIPS HAS SENT TO THE PFC SITE, FEEL FREE TO ASK AT THE PFC MEETING. YOU WILL NEVER SEE WHERE ANYONE FROM PFC HAS EVER SLAMMED THE LIPS WEBSITE. ONLY THOSE WITH SERIOUS MENTAL PROBLEMS WOULD PERSIST IN THIS KIND OF DEGRADATION. IT IS HORRENDOUS THAT LIPS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF GLENN & HIS MOTHER, BOTH WHO ARE DISABLED PERSONS. HOW LOW CAN ANYONE GO???**